Court Rules Bump Stocks Are Not Machine Guns

[Creedmoor]

Are all "2A supporting" presidents going to be sniffing in our gun safes telling us what we are allowed to own?

Trump's assault has lasting effects. Biden is using the EXACT same scheme to regulate AR pistols. He left Biden the blueprint.

I see posts of people bemoaning Biden over it, yet Trump gets a pass? What happened to standing up for what is right?

What if we had all stood up vocally, and forcefully, to denounce his statements and actions? Ohh that's right, opposing executive gun regulations and red flag laws makes you a leftist when they come from the Orange Infringer.

Out of the last 40 years President Trump is the one that concerns you.... lol

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Unfortunately, I think those views were drowned out as not falling in line.

Seeing how easily a segment of gun owners could be manipulated to loudly argue for more gun control simply based on the messenger was a profound moment for me.

This is the danger of team sports.

 

[Destro]

Out of the last 40 years President Trump is the one that concerns you.... lol

Absolutely. Shame on me for believing he was on our side....

Clinton, Obama, Biden.... they stabbed you from the front so you could see it coming. Trump stabbed in the back.

 

[Creedmoor]

Absolutely. Shame on me for believing he was on our side....

Clinton, Obama, Biden.... they stabbed you from the front so you could see it coming. Trump stabbed in the back.

So lol, you were really better off during the clinton,obama and the first two years of biden administrations?

If yes, please send me some of that weed you're smoking. Im going to need it when I get my 700 gal + - off road diesel fuel bill later this week.

 

[Destro]

So lol, you were really better off during the clinton,obama and the first two years of biden administrations?

If yes, please send me some of that weed you're smoking. Im going to need it when I get my 700 gal + - off road diesel fuel bill later this week.

I don't understand these leaps in logic, I really don't

 

[KLB]

I don't understand these leaps in logic, I really don't

It's whataboutisms.

He did something bad, but whatabout that guy!

 

[SheepDog4Life]

OK, I haven't dug into this. Could SCOTUS not taking the case be on the basis of an expectation that Bruen will be applied at the appellate level? In my head is the thought that SCOTUS won't take many more until there is a track record with application of Bruen or evidence it is being ignored.

Right. The court often passes on cases that will not set the mark they wish to set. We know from his statements that Thomas wants to do more related to the 2A but it must be the right case. This likely was not the right case…

This is not about Bruen, nor really from a purely constitutional perspective about 2A. It is about whether or not the courts continue to defer to the bureaucracy in translating "law" into "regulations". I.e. that bump stocks make a machine gun.

This is about Chevron/Auer/Seminole Rock deference to bureaucracy created regs... and unfortunately, bump stock bans are not the case this court is looking for to take a machete to that deference principal that's been in effect for 7-8 decades.

 

[Ingomike]

This is not about Bruen, nor really from a purely constitutional perspective about 2A. It is about whether or not the courts continue to defer to the bureaucracy in translating "law" into "regulations". I.e. that bump stocks make a machine gun.

This is about Chevron/Auer/Seminole Rock deference to bureaucracy created regs... and unfortunately, bump stock bans are not the case this court is looking for to take a machete to that deference principal that's been in effect for 7-8 decades.

I agree. This is not the case to stop the overreach no matter how much we want it to be.

 

[bobzilla]

Out of the last 40 years President Trump is the one that concerns you.... lol

TDS is real.

 

[Destro]

TDS is real.

So is Stockholm Syndrome

 

[bobzilla]

So is Stockholm Syndrome

First post without he who shall not be named! I'm proud of you

 

[Creedmoor]

I don't understand these leaps in logic, I really don't

Well to some, maf is really hard.
You're right its a huge leap.
A bit over two years ago, under the Trump Administration diesel was half of todays price.

 

[Tombs]

I don't understand these leaps in logic, I really don't

Goods need weighed against bads.

Overall, Trump was good for me, afterall he subsidized half of my benelli M4. His policies were also responsible for me having the most disposable income I've ever had in my life.

The bumpstock ban was bad, full stop.

It just starts mattering less when your quality of life is dropping off a cliff due to the next administration's policies.

 

[Ingomike]

Goods need weighed against bads.

Overall, Trump was good for me, afterall he subsidized half of my benelli M4. His policies were also responsible for me having the most disposable income I've ever had in my life.

The bumpstock ban was bad, full stop.

It just starts mattering less when your quality of life is dropping off a cliff due to the next administration's policies.

As CM would have said; BINGO…

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Good.

 

[Ingomike]

Good.

Great news…

 

[patience0830]

I applaud this decision, but I still think they're worthless and will never own one. Just seems like a good way to create a lot of empty brass in a hurry and very little else. But I think that those that want them should be able to have them if they want them.

I've fired one and found 3 round bursts on man sized targets out to 100 yds were doable with a small amount of practice. Way cheaper than a burst or FA trigger group. Could be useful in a combat situation

 

[tcecil88]

Glad to see this. Hopefully, it will positively affect the what happens with with frames & receivers, FRT triggers, and pistol braces.

 

[VostocK]

Glad to see this. Hopefully, it will positively affect the what happens with with frames & receivers, FRT triggers, and pistol braces.

That would be nice. I wouldn't mind having one of those FRT triggers.

 

[Peacekeeper3073]

Brace fight is next. ATF's new rule to coming down soon. Hopefully court will knock that down too. EPA has been reeled in and told they can't make law now it's the ATF's turn.