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    actaeon277

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    BugI02

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    We well and thoroughly flattened the curve. Our mistake was not asking "what then"?

    Our biggest mistake is allowing governors to have 'emergency powers', the edicts of which never have to be taken before the people's representatives after a reasonable length of time for extension of that authority
     

    printcraft

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    Thanksgiving and Christmas are cancelled... you heard it here first.

    (They try every year WITHOUT covid, this is a bonus for them.)
     

    HoughMade

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    Our biggest mistake is allowing governors to have 'emergency powers', the edicts of which never have to be taken before the people's representatives after a reasonable length of time for extension of that authority

    That mistake was made decades ago.

    Truthfully, I don't believe emergency powers in and of themselves are a mistake. However, there should have been strict time limits and affirmative votes by the legislature to continue them rather than, as in Indiana, where the legislature can vote to end them.
     

    BugI02

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    That mistake was made decades ago.

    Truthfully, I don't believe emergency powers in and of themselves are a mistake. However, there should have been strict time limits and affirmative votes by the legislature to continue them rather than, as in Indiana, where the legislature can vote to end them.

    Agreed. I just don't know how/why we got here. Only 7 states require the governor to seek extension of emergency powers after a set time limit and an additional 2 states require prior legislative approval of emergency decrees. That is less than 20% of all states

    I'm in favor of giving the governor the ability to act quickly in an emergency, but would rather what constitutes an emergency be tightly defined and that it be acknowledged that after, say, 28 days you no longer have an emergency but rather an ongoing situation the response to which should be legislatively based. I fail to see the sense in reining in the federal government, only to allow tyranny on the next rung down
     

    jamil

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    That mistake was made decades ago.

    Truthfully, I don't believe emergency powers in and of themselves are a mistake. However, there should have been strict time limits and affirmative votes by the legislature to continue them rather than, as in Indiana, where the legislature can vote to end them.

    Emergency powers should have a limited scope and a clear endpoint. We're way past any definition of "emergency".
     

    Ingomike

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    Emergency powers should have a limited scope and a clear endpoint. We're way past any definition of "emergency".

    Agreed completely!

    Cannot seem to find an updated answer but WHO was close to having to stop calling it a pandemic as it was no longer meeting the thresholds to continue calling it one. They do not seem to want to tell us this is at least slowing way down. Don't want to give up emergency powers...
     
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