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I am so over the case count porn that is so enrapturing to so many, particularly the media. It would be fascinating to study the deaths of past participants in past years to see what killed them.
The response to the Covid-19 pandemic by the scientists appears to have been a big blunder, though it is unlikely they will ever admit it. Nor will the politicians duped admit it, and neither will the people they duped, nope, they will just pretend all is good.
These figures were used on the computer model that predicted 10 times the actual death rate. Used by governments around the world.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-cov...M1OEDIerWs9J0GdyQN9dzWb8JVUgs5AAKJ4xNKVeeWGwE
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/04/covid-why-terminology-really-matters/
These figures were used on the computer model that predicted 10 times the actual death rate. Used by governments around the world.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-cov...M1OEDIerWs9J0GdyQN9dzWb8JVUgs5AAKJ4xNKVeeWGwE
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/09/04/covid-why-terminology-really-matters/
1/4 mil cases from the rally?
Actually a perversion of the word "cases".
As I look into what a case is, since the media seems to love counting them, it seems to me that the traditional definition of a "case" required symptoms and generally the need for hospitalization...
SheepDog4Life
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1/4 mil cases from the rally?
Well, 290 actual contact traced cases... 260,000 "estimated" from "trends" in the areas the attendees came from, lol!
Let's just say I question the accuracy of those estimates.
Well. Sure. It's newsworthy. Makes sense that swarms of people gathering in close proximity during a pandemic would obviously increase the spread. The expected thing actually happened. That's newsworthy. But apparently it's only newsworthy when it's bikers gathering. I'd kinda like media to be consistent about it. If news agencies eagerly report biker gatherings contributing to the case count, it's reasonable to hope they'd be as eager to report all gatherings contributing to the case count, including the gatherings they support. It's a cause. Instead they publish nonsense "studies" that show counter-intuitive bull****, like protests actually stop the spread. It's poopy when they do it. It's okay when we do it. Meh. **** them.
Well, 290 actual contact traced cases... 260,000 "estimated" from "trends" in the areas the attendees came from, lol!
Let's just say I question the accuracy of those estimates.
Don't the attendees come from all over? So wouldn't the 'trends' in the areas they come from just be the trend in the US? But according to worldometers, the 7 day trend line of new cases was at just 38101 per day for 8 Sept and dropping - and that is for 331,000,000 people
Seems a bit of a stretch
It makes a twisted sort of sense when you remember it isn't about whether the stricture and its enforcement makes sense, it is that the people need to be conditioned to obey the government without question. Remember the California cops deploying 5 officers total, three ashore and two in a boat, to roust a lone paddle boarder enjoying the ocean off of a (state mandated) deserted beach
Yep. I completely agree. At the time of the paddle boarding incident I said this. (Pulled from the "to mask or not to mask" thread.)
Yeah. It's conditioning, but more as a function of their experiences as opposed to someone else's. I talk to people at work about it, and most think that people should wear masks. And of the people who think that people should wear masks, most of those think they should be mandated. And then some of those think it should be a crime not to wear one. Those who want penalties seem to be the people who believe that you're imposing your germs on them when you're not wearing a mask.
Listen to what they say. These people literally think you're putting them in danger by not wearing masks. They're just conditioned by living in their own bubble and see mask wearing as a necessary part of life. Add that to the new sort of Millennial ethos of conformity and some people get pretty bat **** crazy about wearing masks. So rather than thinking that there's a covert group trying to manipulate the masses, maybe it's more that people react to things according to how their DNA meshes with their life experience. Maybe if you live in an uber-densely populated area, you'll grow up with the sensibilities of people who are crammed together into large metro areas. Maybe growing up, DNA, family life, school, life experiences, condition you to process information differently than people who grew up in flyover country. It's not that stricter enforcement makes any kind of universal sense. It's that it makes most sense to those people and it makes less sense to people like you.
Listen to what they say. These people literally think you're putting them in danger by not wearing masks. They're just conditioned by living in their own bubble and see mask wearing as a necessary part of life. Add that to the new sort of Millennial ethos of conformity and some people get pretty bat **** crazy about wearing masks. So rather than thinking that there's a covert group trying to manipulate the masses, maybe it's more that people react to things according to how their DNA meshes with their life experience. Maybe if you live in an uber-densely populated area, you'll grow up with the sensibilities of people who are crammed together into large metro areas. Maybe growing up, DNA, family life, school, life experiences, condition you to process information differently than people who grew up in flyover country. It's not that stricter enforcement makes any kind of universal sense. It's that it makes most sense to those people and it makes less sense to people like you.
How different is it from a guy getting a ticket for doing 110 mph on a desert highway where no one else is around? It's asinine, sure...but not new. There's a rule and no matter if the person "breaking" the rule is actually exposing someone to harm, they're going to enforce it.
While this is a prime example of wasteful enforcement, how many places are there with mask mandates and how much actual official enforcement goes on? Not much that I can see.
While this is a prime example of wasteful enforcement, how many places are there with mask mandates and how much actual official enforcement goes on? Not much that I can see.
If some legitimate group were interested in doing a scientifically valid study, there is NO WAY they could have reached any conclusions 3 weeks after the rally. That's not how that works.
The point?
It's not new and if it is part of a grand design to change society or whatever, it started around the time of the Code of Hammurabi or before. We should be as concerned about ridiculous enforcement today as we were in 2019, no more, no less. The times we are living in are not as "unprecedented" as we have been led to believe.
SheepDog4Life
Natural Gray Man
That's putting it mildly... not to mention the Sturgis attendees would have been returning home right about the time school was starting in many areas... how they would separate any "Sturgis" trend from a "back to school" trend is beyond me.
Okay. if "It's" refers to covid, I pretty much agree with that. I don't think there's a grand design in a conspiratorial sense WRT COVID-19. Like I'm not gonna start calling it the bank bug anytime soon. That it's being politicized in an election year should not surprise anyone. I think it's more like I said, people are conditioned by nature and nurture to process things differently. It's just a difference in processing and reaction. And it kinda looks like it's a bit generational, though not without exceptions. Some people think that people who don't wear masks are stupid and should be punished by society. Some people think wearing masks is stupid. And of course there are opinions all through the spectrum. That's not a conspiracy. It's not part of a grand design to change society. It's just people processing something they don't fully understand and reacting to it.
That's separate from "woke" social justice. That's not so much a conspiracy as a movement that started in academia and has spilled over into society and is trying to become mainstream. It's similar to what happened in the 60s. Thankfully there weren't enough of them. And soon we all forgot about the far left hippies, their terrorist organizations, bombings and such. They were indeed implementing a grand design to change society. And it's fair to say there was a "them" and there still is a "them". Robin DiAngelo, for example is a them. They ARE trying to change society. They're overt enough about that in their own literature. Critical theory is all about flipping the power hierarchy. Take power away from oppressive identity group--there's only one, and give that power to the oppressed identity groups, there are many. Normal people don't think in terms of every interaction being solely about power and oppression. That's derived ideologically. Most people aren't trying to oppress people, and in the West, and especially in the US, most people aren't oppressed. "Woke" IS an existential threat to normal people and should not be dismissed.
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