Roadie is dark matter.
There...it's settled.
Oh believe me, I can be seen lol
Roadie is dark matter.
There...it's settled.
Oh believe me, I can be seen lol
OK, I agree to your point. However, to date, no one has brought forward any proof that God exists to be scientifically studied. His existence is supported by faith alone.
I'm just going to leave this here
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I would say that it is going somewhere. Up to this point, for the most part, our personal beliefs have been hidden while we have become known to each other in most other regards. My hope and belief is that having a great deal of disclosure prior to revelation of each other's beliefs will help to demonstrate the validity of the sentiment best expressed by Jefferson who said (as best I remember the quote) that whether another man believes in one god, many gods, or no god neither picks my pockets nor breaks my limbs.
I certainly hope that this open discussion of religion leads not only to treatment of current events which affect us in full honesty, but also to a better understanding of each other such as to overcome the mistrust of people who are different but not true threats which is inherent to human nature.
As you might discern, I would be happy to see you come to faith. I am not going to badger you, belittle you, or think less of you because you do not. I see this as the foundation for the strength we need in our society which has suffered greatly from the politics of division personally, locally, regionally, and nationally. From what you have said, I feel comfortable in the understanding that our positions on the matter are compatible.
Cat fight!
It's just oust awesome to watch people force politeness when you can tell they both want to choke each other.
Also, that lady sounds extremely uneducated with her blatant denial of evidence.
Indeed not, for science is only useful in the realms of the physical and material. Science only works where there can be experiment, objective observation, and ultimately repetition of those experiments where the same objective observations can be made wholly independent of those prior. The spiritual, the divine, the religious, all reject these premises, and so are orthogonal to science. The very words "supernatural" and "paranormal" are evidence for this divorce.What science can not do for man is help him to come to a deeper understanding of the spiritual realm - that is the real of religion and theology.
This sounds dangerously close to the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. We see time and time again where the spiritual, the divine, the religious authority has laid down a "true fact" about the universe, which scientific inquiry has come along and performed experiments, collected evidence, and drawn conclusions which diametricly oppose those religious facts. So, it comes down, I suppose, to the the question of what you would call a "true" science as opposed to a "false" science, which, I'm sure, you would admit there are many. So many, in fact that a word had to be coined, pseudoscience, which literally means false science, to give a single verbal handle on them all. Astral projection, phrenology, aural photography, basicly the whole supernatural and paranormal playbook.True science will not contradict the spiritual,
I can make two statements:Excellent point. I have a much easier time with someone who tells me that he doubts the existence, does not believe God to exist than someone who tries to tell me that there is no such thing as if it were an established fact.
I think you're woefully misapprehended the nature of a scientific theory. All theories are true until they are proven false. To say that something is a theory is to admit that it is true, for if it is ever proven false, it ceases to be a theory and becomes, unscientific intellectual flotsam. Cold Fusion was a theory. It was tested and found lacking. No one calls Cold Fusion a theory any more, except those still toiling away in vain attempts to prove the unprovable. String Theory is still called a theory, but it's only its last legs as far as I can tell. It's made some predictions which have been tested and found lacking, but the whole of the theory is so intricate and convoluted in its machinations, there may be parts of it that will never be testable with the engineering and technology of the 21st century.And scientific theory is just that: Theory.
If it cannot be proven empirically, it's theory... opinion. And MOST of science is, indeed, theory.
That puts ALL non-empirical science in the same corner as religion: Theory, and one's belief in that theory. Which is called...
Faith.
Opinions are statements that can never be tested or proved. My favourite color is blue. I like blueberry waffles. I can't prove that I like blueberry waffles. You can't disprove that my favourite color is blue.
To conflate theory with opinion is to do violence to both.