China Lands Aircraft On Their Carrier

[firehawk1]

The best way I can explain it is that the Royal Navy has a superiority complex that makes most Texans look humble.

I had a buddy that was in the Navy and he told me there were Royal Navy personnel at his base and they were ALWAYS itching for a fight.

IMO the British have never fully gotten over that Revolutionary War thing.... Other than one English guy I worked with on a prototype piece of equipment several years ago, ALL the English people I've had the "pleasure" of working around have been arrogant a**holes. Not insinuating they all are, just the one's I've been around.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I had a buddy that was in the Navy and he told me there were Royal Navy personnel at his base and they were ALWAYS itching for a fight.

IMO the British have never fully gotten over that Revolutionary War thing.... Other than one English guy I worked with on a prototype piece of equipment several years ago, ALL the English people I've had the "pleasure" of working around have been arrogant a**holes. Not insinuating they all are, just the one's I've been around.

I can understand this observation regarding some of the aggregates of people I have encountered in my travels!

As for the hostility, it could be the frustration from the fact that these days joining the navy is about the only way for Brits to get off of that socialist piece of Hell they call home!

 

[buford t justice]

A large percentage of the carriers owned by other countries are old U.S. carriers that we sold off.
spain and india both buy parts from our company to keep them in operation.

 

[IndyDave1776]

A large percentage of the carriers owned by other countries are old U.S. carriers that we sold off.
spain and india both buy parts from our company to keep them in operation.

At present the only former US carrier in foreign service is a World War II example in service with Brazil.

 

[spearheadersarge]

This Chinese carrier isn't what concerns me. It is the next one they build themselves with some reverse engineering and vast improvements which they can quickly duplicate to transform to a true blue water navy. I fear the naval deficit will be erased within a decade. America can ill afford any more big ticket items in the defense arena. We are sure to have another peace dividend cashed out in the near term.....

 

[cobber]

This Chinese carrier isn't what concerns me. It is the next one they build themselves with some reverse engineering and vast improvements which they can quickly duplicate to transform to a true blue water navy. I fear the naval deficit will be erased within a decade. America can ill afford any more big ticket items in the defense arena. We are sure to have another peace dividend cashed out in the near term.....

Peace dividend? You mean reduced borrowing from the Chinese to finance our defense spending?

Once China secures the South China Sea and occupies Taiwan, they'll be out of geopolitical goals for the next 100 years.

They may need to work on their nuclear deterrent to deal with the Iranians, however.

And they'll need to secure their trade routes to Africa and South America...

 

[spearheadersarge]

Maybe that "peae dividend" line should have been in PURPLE!!!

 

[buford t justice]

At present the only former US carrier in foreign service is a World War II example in service with Brazil.

you are misinformed as we sold parts to spain for their old us carrier last week.
actually you might be right as spain and indias could still be listed as under refit,but I assure you they have them or they wouldn't be buying hydraulics from us for those ships for no reason.

 

[Indy60]

China holds allot of our foreign debt. Maybe someday in the near future they will pull up to New York with their carrier to call the notes due.

 

[IndyDave1776]

you are misinformed as we sold parts to Spain for their old us carrier last week.

No. The Príncipe de Asturias is the only aircraft carrier in the Spanish Navy. Spain also possesses 3 amphibious assault ships, one of which, the Juan Carlos I, could be mistaken for an aircraft carrier and bears a close resemblance with the American Wasp-class LSD, but was constructed in Spain. Both of these ships do, however, use US-built AV-8B Harriers, which could account for your shipment of parts, or perhaps other US components incorporated into the ships.

 

[Solitaire]

China holds allot of our foreign debt. Maybe someday in the near future they will pull up to New York with their carrier to call the notes due.

祝你好运

 

[cobber]

China holds allot of our foreign debt. Maybe someday in the near future they will pull up to New York with their carrier to call the notes due.

No, they'll just repossess our navy, and pull into NY harbor on the USS Ronald Reagan.

We're so on our way to becoming a second-tier power. Maybe we can start laying the keels of our own "Invincible" class carriers?

祝你好运

Ni hui bu hui putonghua?

 

[danielocean03]

祝你好运

Good luck, indeed.

 

[redneckmedic]

China holds allot of our foreign debt. Maybe someday in the near future they will pull up to New York with their carrier to call the notes due.

This is actually a popular misconception. My understanding is that the larger tab to china has been paid or bartered off in oil. Most of our debt is actually owed to ourselves if that actually makes any sense.

 

[IndyDave1776]

This is actually a popular misconception. My understanding is that the larger tab to china has been paid or bartered off in oil. Most of our debt is actually owed to ourselves if that actually makes any sense.

Or to the Federal Reserve, which is a horse of a different color and a deep and nebulous hole.

 

[downzero]

5:5:3:2:1

Forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand this comment.

I do wonder why so many fear the Chinese when the best that they have is reverse-engineered, old technology. We might not have the money to build more F-22s and F-35s, but the fact that we developed and fielded them in the first place is something that the Chinese simply cannot do.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Forgive my ignorance, but I don't understand this comment.

I do wonder why so many fear the Chinese when the best that they have is reverse-engineered, old technology. We might not have the money to build more F-22s and F-35s, but the fact that we developed and fielded them in the first place is something that the Chinese simply cannot do.

That was an obscure reference to the 1922 Washington Naval Treaty which in simplified form afforded the 5:5:3:2:1 ratio of naval tonnage to the British, US, Japanese, French, and Italian navies, respectively, and specified how many battleships each may have at any time and the conditions for constructing new ships, particularly battleships and aircraft carriers over time.

 

[PistolBob]

China holds allot of our foreign debt. Maybe someday in the near future they will pull up to New York with their carrier to call the notes due.

And what do you think will happen? We have tactical submarine based nukes designed for the sole purpose of taking out an aircraft carrier in one strike. We have stealth technology fighters and bombers that can make that thing disappear before they can phone back to Bejing to order more egg rolls.

I'm not too worried about it yet...but considering who is on the JCOS and the current CINC, well I won't be placing any bets.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I'm not too worried about it yet...but considering who is on the JCOS and the current CINC, well I won't be placing any bets.

At the beginning of World War II, Admiral Ernest King was promoted to Commander in Chief, United States Fleet, up to that point abbreviated 'CINCUS' which he had changed to 'COMINCH' on the grounds that he did not consider it good for morale to have the highest ranking admiral in the navy known as 'sink us'.

With Obama as Commander in Chief of the United States, the old naval acronym seems very appropriate!

 

[Solitaire]

Ni hui bu hui putonghua?

No, but I wish I did.