In this situation, yes. The student/campus police relationship is not (and should not be) the same as the general public/Professional Police relationship. And the limit is (IMHO):Use violence only once violence is used against me.
In this situation, yes. The student/campus police relationship is not (and should not be) the same as the general public/Professional Police relationship. And the limit is (IMHO):Use violence only once violence is used against me.
Is your stance that because they we're "peaceful," no "violence" should have been used? And if so, are there limits to how long one stays "non0violent," in the face of peaceful opposition?
I think the chances are pretty good that we're all more heavily armed than those guys...but i still say there's no need to bring a stick to wordfight, let alone a gun.
So i stand by what i wrote: they were over-armed for the situation...they are the campus police.
(To be clear...this is all in the spirit of lively and open discussion...i do not intend to offend anyone personally. It's just the interwebs, afterall...)
By comparison? uhm...yes. Yes.
YES!
How much do you need? I say only a badge and a zip-tie, maybe a pen. They are the campus police.
I don't think the students' throw-back tactics to the 60s won them many new supporters in this incident. And unlike in the 60s, the police were remarkably restrained in the face of childish provocations.
Watching the video I was hoping at some point the students would just STFU and stop running up to the police, shooting video on their iPhones. It was like watching a 1st grade recess. (And what is this running at police and grabbing/pushing at them?)
This is not a group I intend to make common cause with anytime soon, if that is their idea of free speech and assembly.
My money is on them all going into corporate jobs on graduation, assuming they get offers.
BUT MIGHT IT NOT STOP A BEAR ??Then A, you are also probably high school educated, with makes one wonder why you brought the point up.
B, not sure if you noticed, but this is a gun owners website, where most of the members carry their "tools" daily. Have been too many instances of members "hammering" anything.
And C, as someone already stated, hyperbole does you no service in making your point.
24 aerosol cns of high-per-bolle. Grizzly-strength if it's available.
BUT MIGHT IT NOT STOP A BEAR ??
The student behavior should have resulted in all of them being arrested once the police were surrounded. Surrounding police and making demands IMO is not "peaceful protest"
I don't think the students' throw-back tactics to the 60s won them many new supporters in this incident. And unlike in the 60s, the police were remarkably restrained in the face of childish provocations.
Watching the video I was hoping at some point the students would just STFU and stop running up to the police, shooting video on their iPhones. It was like watching a 1st grade recess. (And what is this running at police and grabbing/pushing at them?)
This is not a group I intend to make common cause with anytime soon, if that is their idea of free speech and assembly.
My money is on them all going into corporate jobs on graduation, assuming they get offers.
I would be a lot more sympathetic if these demonstrations were populated by the working poor, rather than a bunch of pampered students with iPhones and other toys. But the working poor are too busy...working. Strange.
Ding! Like yesteryear, today's hippies are tomorrows Republicans.
All well and good...Thanks for the personal attack, UncleMike.
I happen to believe it's often better to open my ears than to open my mouth.
I have been an avid reader of this forum for years. I use it a a resource to answer my many gun questions. Things get covered pretty well here, and it's not often i feel the need to add my opinion. I thought it would be fun to add to this, though. I guess my opinion is not as valuable to you as others. OK.
This might shock you...liberals own guns too.
Although it seems a bit hypocritical to own the very tools that they claim are "evil in and of themselves" and should be banned for other people.
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And I'm fully aware that many Liberals own firearms.
Although it seems a bit hypocritical to own the very tools that they claim are "evil in and of themselves" and should be banned for other people.
I'm not basing my opinion on stereotypes.WHEN DID I SAY THIS?
What a CRAP stereotype!!!
How's this for a stereotype: Turn off FOX news and TALK to a few liberals. We're not actually what the 'conservative' media would have you believe.
Democrat DOES NOT equal liberal.
Please...
I'm not basing my opinion on stereotypes.
I'm basing it on my personal observations going back almost fifty years.
And I speak to Liberals every day on a variety of subjects.
I'll NEVER agree with their political views, or their incessant defense of radicals.
Period!!
Other than that I find them to be interesting people and a source of a good laugh occasionally.
To the point however.Don't forget: It was gun-toting radicals who founded this country. To Rage against the machine is as American as apple pie.