AR15 VS M1 Garand!

[Mosinowner]

Me and my dad have been having a argument for alittle bit. He says the M1 garand is better than the AR15. I keep saying its outdated. (I know you told me this about the mosin and I finally had to bit the bullet (pun intended) )
So which would you take into combat today? Full loadout 210 rounds of ammo rifle, cleaning kits, mags/clips. Urban combat setting

 

[scottka]

The M1 is awesome, but IMO, the nostalgia surrounding it is its greatest strength in today's world. It was great for its time, but the AR pretty well whips it in today's modern world. I'd love to have an M1 though. I've got a M1 carbine and it is also a very neat piece.

 

[Constructionist]

Am I going into urban combat, or a more open engagement at greater distances?

 

[paddling_man]

Am I going into urban combat, or a more open engagement at greater distances?

Good point. Iraq or Afganistan? I'm taking a M4 to Iraq and an M1 to Afganistan.

 

[Mosinowner]

Good point. Iraq or Afganistan? I'm taking a M4 to Iraq and an M1 to Afganistan.

I'm talking modern combat. Clearing buildings and Urban setting.

 

[Constructionist]

I'm talking modern combat. Clearing buildings and Urban setting.

Then definitely an AR-15. If I needed something .30 caliber, it would be an M1A (or AR-10 if I'm required to stay with the AR platform), but I'd definitely stay with something shorter than a Garand, and semi-auto.

 

[rbrthenderson]

Any CQB stuff and I'm going with the AR hands down.

 

[sgreen3]

The AR, its what I have and what I shoot.

 

[Que]

I would take the AR over the M! for combat any day of the week.

 

[Fordtough25]

I have both, shoot both, and love both. M1 has a lot more power at distance, sights are pretty close, M1 is heavier but feels just right against your shoulder. M14 would be a better comparison since it's box fed. Give me an M14 in one of those fancy Mod stocks, oooh yea.

 

[Constructionist]

I would take the AR over the M! for combat any day of the week.

Expand upon this please. I ask not to argue but to expand my knowledge base. Thanks.

 

[vesan87]

Man this question is easy! Just like asking 1911 or Glock..........

 

[Mosinowner]

Man this question is easy! Just like asking 1911 or Glock..........

Or OC vs CC

Lets see how long it takes for ATM to show up

 

[Mosinguy]

I LOVE the M1, but all it has on the AR is a larger caliber and nostalgia. Have you seen 30-06 prices recently?

I have neither but I'd rather have an AR with a collapsible stock and permanent A2 carry handle/sight with 20" barrel.

 

[TheWabbit]

Against the M1 (a battle rifle) of course the battle carbine (AR, AK, M1 Carbine) is better in urban/cqb environment. But I would take the AK at 7.62 over the AR at 5.56 in that environment. In open field, I would take the 30-30 or 308 M1 Garand over the AR or AK.

I would recommend reading Cooper's book, To Ride, Shoot Straight, And Speak The Truth

 

[Kedric]

for the urban setting you described, the maneuverability of the AR platform gives it the advantage over the M1.

 

[Colt556]

Depends on area of battle. Urban, jungle, areas where you'd expect close shooting an AR. Areas where there are rolling hills, long open vistas, mountian to mountain fighting an M1, even though an M14 would be more gooder!

 

[sloughfoot]

If I was a member of a tactical team, I would be carrying whatever the team needs to accomplish the mission. Which would probably mean an AR15 or similar for room clearing and all that fancy stuff.

Since it just me, and I realize that room clearing for a solo operator is suicide, I opt for the power, range, and accuracy of the Garand. Or a scoped bolt gun....

 

[totenkopf]

I voted for the AR-15 due to the capacity of the magazine and the adaptability of the AR platform to a variety of applications. Patton was right when he called the Garand the greatest weapon ever conceived, but then again, Patton didn't live very long after World War II.

That being said, I'd rather have an M-1A or an F.A.L. over either the AR or Garand in a combat situation.

 

[ATM]

Or OC vs CC

Lets see how long it takes for ATM to show up

This was a test of the emergency debate broadcast system. It was only a test.

In the event of an actual OC vs CC question or discussion my response would have been swift and decisive.

We now return you to your normallly scheduled programming.


I'd favor the AR for 0-300 yards.