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  • two70

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    I actually think Candace Owens is dumb and money grubbing opportunist that, ironically, isn't afraid to throw out the race card when it suits her purpose.
    For instance:
    -When Ted Lieu played her Hitler clip, during a congressional hearing, she accused him of thinking that "black people are dumb."

    What she actually said was to paraphrase, "Mr. Lieu seems to think black people are too dumb to look up the entire Hitler clip for themselves, including the question that prompted her response." Bold added for the part the liberal media and you conveniently left out. The media did the same thing with her original Hitler comments, they do same damned thing all the time to conservatives. , You know this, you're not that obtuse and yet you faithfully parrot it simply because it fits your agenda.
     

    BugI02

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    You need to look more into Candace Owens then. She's played the victim more than a few times. Check out the story about how she stiffed a landlord after living there for 6 months.

    Thank you for the wake-up call on Owens. Some of your sources would be problematic for me, but I found this one

    https://quillette.com/2018/05/08/problem-candace-owens/
    The Problem with Candace Owens

    The author appears legit

    Obviously, no one but Owens knows how genuine her professed beliefs are. But a look at her history strongly suggests that her “conservatism” is a mix of opportunism, personal grievances, canned slogans and paranoid conspiracy theories.


    Since much of her previous persona is tangled up in the fur-ball that was GamerGate, perhaps our resident expert on that GP will see this and weigh in
     

    Kutnupe14

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    What she actually said was to paraphrase, "Mr. Lieu seems to think black people are too dumb to look up the entire Hitler clip for themselves, including the question that prompted her response." Bold added for the part the liberal media and you conveniently left out. The media did the same thing with her original Hitler comments, they do same damned thing all the time to conservatives. , You know this, you're not that obtuse and yet you faithfully parrot it simply because it fits your agenda.

    Ok, AND? What do Black people have anything to do with Mr. Lieu? She pulled the race card for absolutely no reason, other than Ted Lieu criticizing her.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Thank you for the wake-up call on Owens. Some of your sources would be problematic for me, but I found this one

    https://quillette.com/2018/05/08/problem-candace-owens/
    The Problem with Candace Owens

    The author appears legit




    Since much of her previous persona is tangled up in the fur-ball that was GamerGate, perhaps our resident expert on that GP will see this and weigh in

    You're welcome

    Kut (tips hat)
     

    jamil

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    I’m not a fan of Candice Owens. I kinda think she’s an opportunist former progressive who turned on the left because they turned on her.

    But I’ll defend her on the quoted statement.

    If you’re not looking for the worst interpretation, there’s nothing wrong with that statement. It’s not pro-Hitler. I interpreted that she’s saying it wasn’t the ‘natuonalism’ part that made Hitler evil, it was the other stuff. And she’s right about that. As an ideology, I don’t agree with nationalism. But it’s not a gateway drug to literally Hitler. That’s the message she inartfully articulated.

    But, with the many truly idiotic things she has said, you pick that one as your crux? :rolleyes:
     

    jamil

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    She later said that her point was that Hitler wasn't a nationalist. She claimed he was a globalist because he wanted to spread Nazi-ism beyond the borders of Germany.
    Seems a little thin. It also seems thin to say than nationalism equals Nazi-ism.

    Uh, she did try to walk it back but I didn’t hear her say Hitler wasn’t a nationalist. His problem was that he was also a racist and wanted to purify the world and make it all “Germany”.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I’m not a fan of Candice Owens. I kinda think she’s an opportunist former progressive who turned on the left because they turned on her.

    But I’ll defend her on the quoted statement.

    If you’re not looking for the worst interpretation, there’s nothing wrong with that statement. It’s not pro-Hitler. I interpreted that she’s saying it wasn’t the ‘natuonalism’ part that made Hitler evil, it was the other stuff. And she’s right about that. As an ideology, I don’t agree with nationalism. But it’s not a gateway drug to literally Hitler. That’s the message she inartfully articulated.

    But, with the many truly idiotic things she has said, you pick that one as your crux? :rolleyes:

    I know it's not pro-Hitler. It's idiotic. It has nothing to do with Nationalism or Globalism, and everything to do with an understanding of history.
    Here's what Candace Owens said:
    "If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well — OK, fine," she says. "The problem is ... he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German."

    The problem was the Hitler had dreams OUTSIDE of Germany??? Hell, Hitler posed a very real problem to a lot of people INSIDE of Germany. She seems to be dismissive of that fact, actually she's dumb, so it's possible that she wasn't really even aware of things like the Nuremberg Laws, and other types of Nazi persecutions. If someone says something that dumb, they deserve to be exposed as a moron.
     

    Ingomike

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    And back to AOC, recently saw an article that her popularity in her district is very low with only 13% saying the would vote for her and 30%+ saying they would not. Something in the 10% range of her fundraising is local. And there is talk her district may be eliminated and combined with another so she may face an incumbent in the primary.
     

    churchmouse

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    And back to AOC, recently saw an article that her popularity in her district is very low with only 13% saying the would vote for her and 30%+ saying they would not. Something in the 10% range of her fundraising is local. And there is talk her district may be eliminated and combined with another so she may face an incumbent in the primary.

    This would be stellar.

    Tony Katz laid out where here funding was coming from and yes 90% is from outside her district. Interesting. She is a pawn.
     

    BugI02

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    I know it's not pro-Hitler. It's idiotic. It has nothing to do with Nationalism or Globalism, and everything to do with an understanding of history.
    Here's what Candace Owens said:


    The problem was the Hitler had dreams OUTSIDE of Germany??? Hell, Hitler posed a very real problem to a lot of people INSIDE of Germany. She seems to be dismissive of that fact, actually she's dumb, so it's possible that she wasn't really even aware of things like the Nuremberg Laws, and other types of Nazi persecutions. If someone says something that dumb, they deserve to be exposed as a moron.


    I will not dispute the characterization, but I'm forced to wonder if she is any dumber about history than the rest of her generational cohort. Smart money says "maybe not"
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    I will not dispute the characterization, but I'm forced to wonder if she is any dumber about history than the rest of her generational cohort. Smart money says "maybe not"
    I think you can change "maybe not" to "definitely is". At least I would hope so. If not, then we're in more trouble than I thought.

    AOC suggests ‘informed’ millennials are first generation to protest government, forgets about the ‘60s

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-millennials-first-generation-to-protest-forgets-60s
     

    jamil

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    Jeez! Seriously? In no particular order, what about Woman's suffrage? What about the Boston Tea Party? Temperance movement? Revolution? WTF?
     

    Mongo59

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    It is impressive how she has a toddler's grasp of every situation. She must really feel like a pioneer in every situation she ever finds herself.

    Someone give her an owners manual to a disposal to keep her amused...
     

    Mongo59

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    She doesn't know what it is, she doesn't know what it does, but is ready to pass judgement on whether it is "green".

    You know, your typical informed politician...
     
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