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  • Kutnupe14

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    Your whole opinion is based upon that one statement?

    Nope.
    So when you think about — whenever we say “nationalism,” the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. He was a national socialist. But if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is that he wanted, he had dreams outside of Germany.
     

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    Nope.

    So when you think about — whenever we say “nationalism,” the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. He was a national socialist. But if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is that he wanted, he had dreams outside of Germany.

    :dunno:
     

    Doug

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    She later said that her point was that Hitler wasn't a nationalist. She claimed he was a globalist because he wanted to spread Nazi-ism beyond the borders of Germany.
    Seems a little thin. It also seems thin to say than nationalism equals Nazi-ism.
     

    BugI02

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    So, would you agree with this?

    “We don’t need any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice.”

    Candace is most assuredly black, and when speaking she is most assuredly an authentic 'black voice' (IMO moreso than, say, a Ta-Nehisi Coates). Although, I admit; that video does seem like she is reading from a script and 'black card' rings false to my ear. I don't think a black person would phrase that idea that way, but I have to assume she read the script before reciting it and was in agreement with its general idea. I didn't see her blinking in morse code.

    Looking at it from here, it surely does look like a version of the True Scotsman fallacy that your promulgating, a kind of 'no true black person would do such a thing'
     

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    So, would you agree with this?



    Candace is most assuredly black, and when speaking she is most assuredly an authentic 'black voice' (IMO moreso than, say, a Ta-Nehisi Coates). Although, I admit; that video does seem like she is reading from a script and 'black card' rings false to my ear. I don't think a black person would phrase that idea that way, but I have to assume she read the script before reciting it and was in agreement with its general idea. I didn't see her blinking in morse code.

    Looking at it from here, it surely does look like a version of the True Scotsman fallacy that your promulgating, a kind of 'no true black person would do such a thing'

    No, that statement is textbook ignorance. I'd welcome any color face that supported something that I thought was important.

    Candace Owens is cut from the same cloth as Jackson and Sharpton, she just works for the conservative side after she found out that the liberal side was too full of morons for her to make really good money and create a following.
     

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    No, that statement is textbook ignorance. I'd welcome any color face that supported something that I thought was important.

    Candace Owens is cut from the same cloth as Jackson and Sharpton, she just works for the conservative side after she found out that the liberal side was too full of morons for her to make really good money and create a following.


    I OBJECT!

    Candace is way better looking than Jackson or Sharpton. :yesway:
     

    BugI02

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    Presley isn't talking about the color of the face, she's talking about staying on message. She is implying if a person is not supporting the positions she approves of, they are not representing and should just sit down. She wants to be the arbiter of authenticity in black and brown voices

    That seems a lot like what you are doing with Owens

    Edit: In no way mean to suggest you cannot have that opinion, just that you should expect some disagreement
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    No, that statement is textbook ignorance. I'd welcome any color face that supported something that I thought was important.

    Candace Owens is cut from the same cloth as Jackson and Sharpton, she just works for the conservative side after she found out that the liberal side was too full of morons for her to make really good money and create a following.

    I don't understand how you can say this. Jackson and Sharpton encourage blacks to embrace their victimhood and use that to their advantage. Owens eschews the whole victimhood thing and encourages people to succeed on their own merits. Pretty much polar opposites IMHO.

    If anyone embodies MLK's "judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" ideal, it's Owens, not Jackson or Sharpton.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Presley isn't talking about the color of the face, she's talking about staying on message. She is implying if a person is not supporting the positions she approves of, they are not representing and should just sit down. She wants to be the arbiter of authenticity in black and brown voices

    That seems a lot like what you are doing with Owens

    I actually think Candace Owens is dumb and money grubbing opportunist that, ironically, isn't afraid to throw out the race card when it suits her purpose.
    For instance:
    -When Ted Lieu played her Hitler clip, during a congressional hearing, she accused him of thinking that "black people are dumb."
    -With the help of the NAACP she sued her high school for racial discrimination, and won $30-something thousand dollars.
    -She used to run a liberal website (Degree180), which talked about the president's penis size, his immigrant wife, the hope that the GOP "died in it's sleep." The site died off due to low traffic, and she reinvented herself.

    Look her up, she's a trip.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I don't understand how you can say this. Jackson and Sharpton encourage blacks to embrace their victimhood and use that to their advantage. Owens eschews the whole victimhood thing and encourages people to succeed on their own merits. Pretty much polar opposites IMHO.

    If anyone embodies MLK's "judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" ideal, it's Owens, not Jackson or Sharpton.

    You need to look more into Candace Owens then. She's played the victim more than a few times. Check out the story about how she stiffed a landlord after living there for 6 months.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    I actually think Candace Owens is dumb and money grubbing opportunist that, ironically, isn't afraid to throw out the race card when it suits her purpose.
    For instance:
    -When Ted Lieu played her Hitler clip, during a congressional hearing, she accused him of thinking that "black people are dumb."
    -With the help of the NAACP she sued her high school for racial discrimination, and won $30-something thousand dollars.
    -She used to run a liberal website (Degree180), which talked about the president's penis size, his immigrant wife, the hope that the GOP "died in it's sleep." The site died off due to low traffic, and she reinvented herself.

    Look her up, she's a trip.

    I wasn't aware of any of this, admittedly.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    You need to look more into Candace Owens then. She's played the victim more than a few times. Check out the story about how she stiffed a landlord after living there for 6 months.

    Perhaps I do. I've only recently become aware of her at all. If true, it sounds like she's more akin to Julia and Andre Carson.
     
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