Anti-Second Amendment feeling among FFL holders?

[youngda9]

$$ > Personal Ethics

 

[ccomstock001]

As a Shelbyville resident, please share the FFL holder. I have a feeling I know who, but I just want to be sure.

If it is who I think it is then it's not surprising.

 

[BADWOLF]

Let me guess ( Blue River Arms ) ha lol...

 

[Libertarian01]

I think everyone ought to be able to produce and sell their own beer, wine and hard liquor as well.

AS a matter of fact, let's allow liquor stores to buy from anyone they want from anywhere in or out of the country.

But the distributors will tell another story, much like FFL's who want that extra $$$.

Regards,

Doug

 

[ccomstock001]

Let me guess ( Blue River Arms ) ha lol...

That was my guess
I went in one time he acted like he didn't want me in there. Never went back.

 

[BADWOLF]

Hell he's hardly ever open

 

[Restroyer]

My FFL does not feel that way. He believes that we shouldn't need FFL's. He only charges $20 and mainly does the FFL thing to get business opportunities to promote his cerakote, gun cleaning, full auto weapons, suppressors, and self defense classes. He's a stand up guy and one of the nicest people you could ever meet.

 

[actaeon277]

Well, since he thinks they are so important, I'm sure he'll volunteer to do checks/transfers for free.

 

[indiucky]

Who wouldn't want $20 for a few minutes of work - hundreds or thousands of times per year.

A street hooker.....

 

[HoughMade]

It's pretty lucky that most of us don't have a conflict between moral beliefs and our income. That enables the high horses to remain appreciably high without the risk of hypocrisy.

 

[Kutnupe14]

It'd pretty lucky that most of us don't have a conflict between moral beliefs and our income. That enables the high horses to remain appreciably high without the risk of hypocrisy.

+1
I'm betting these guys think doctors should work for free too.

 

[CampingJosh]

I'm betting these guys think doctors should work for free too.

Not a fair comparison. Nobody wants them to work for free.

We just don't think this bit of "work" the FFL holder does adds value to the economy.

I certainly don't want to have to visit a doctor and get a prescription in order to take an aspirin for my headache.

 

[indiucky]

Not a fair comparison. Nobody wants them to work for free.

We just don't think this bit of "work" the FFL holder does adds value to the economy.

I got $25 for a transfer Saturday and then bought a bottle of Buffalo Trace (distilled locally, keeping the money local)...The customer was able to purchase a firearm from Bud's (which is about an 80 mile drive from here) and only have to walk 100 yards from his Doctor's office to my shop to fill out his paperwork...He gets to purchase a firearm cheaper than I could have sold to him from his computer...I get $25 for being here when the revolver was delivered, unpacking it, putting it on the books and calling in his transfer....

It's sounds like a win for everyone.....If I do not get mad at folks for buying from out of state vendors online to save money then why on earth would someone begrudge me for charging $25 for my time and to help cover insurance, lease, internet, electricity, heat, etc to keep a small one man shop open in an era of Bud's, Rural King, Wal-Mart, Gander Mountain, Bass Pro Shop, Cabelas etc....If it wasn't for transfers I couldn't stay open...I saw this coming and decided to specialize in used firearms and doing transfers for some of the big online vendors...I have managed to keep the doors open since 2011 and I don't know who the "we" is that you are referring to that "don't think this bit of "work" the FFL does adds value to the economy" but I have never met them....Most folks that come here are just happy I do their transfers and don't give them any crap about buying a gun from someone other than me.....

 

[Beowulf]

Just like there are plenty of people who don't want the nfa repealed or opened up. They'd lose their aces on the tens of thousands of dollars spent for a single m16.

I keep seeing this sentiment thrown out there, but as someone who would stand to lose a substantial amount of value in my machineguns, I certainly don't agree. I'd love for the Hughes Amendment to be thrown out (or even better, the entire NFA). I've also never met any other machinegun owner who doesn't agree with me on that point. Most would rather lose the value in the guns they have, so that they can continue to grow their full auto collections without having to sell a kidney.

I don't know who these mythical big-money, Hughes Amendment supporting, machinegun collectors are, but they certainly don't seem to come to any shoots that I've attended. Maybe they are too busy attending their Illuminati meetings and plotting to get rid of the lifetime concealed carry permits.

 

[historian]

I got $25 for a transfer Saturday and then bought a bottle of Buffalo Trace (distilled locally, keeping the money local)...The customer was able to purchase a firearm from Bud's (which is about an 80 mile drive from here) and only have to walk 100 yards from his Doctor's office to my shop to fill out his paperwork...He gets to purchase a firearm cheaper than I could have sold to him from his computer...I get $25 for being here when the revolver was delivered, unpacking it, putting it on the books and calling in his transfer....

It's sounds like a win for everyone.....If I do not get mad at folks for buying from out of state vendors online to save money then why on earth would someone begrudge me for charging $25 for my time and to help cover insurance, lease, internet, electricity, heat, etc to keep a small one man shop open in an era of Bud's, Rural King, Wal-Mart, Gander Mountain, Bass Pro Shop, Cabelas etc....If it wasn't for transfers I couldn't stay open...I saw this coming and decided to specialize in used firearms and doing transfers for some of the big online vendors...I have managed to keep the doors open since 2011 and I don't know who the "we" is that you are referring to that "don't think this bit of"work" the FFL does adds value to the economy" but I have never met them....Most folks that come here are just happy I do their transfers and don't give them any crap about buying a gun from someone other than me.....

I'm just glad I live way far away from you. Otherwise, my wife would probably put your store as a "no fly zone".

 

[CampingJosh]

It's sounds like a win for everyone.....

It would be a better win if the company making the sale could ship the gun directly to the consumer, cutting out the middle man. The consumer pays less, and the transaction is quicker and more convenient. The downside is that you and many like you have to find other types of business to do.

Your business (transfers for money) is predicated on a law that requires an FFL to transfer firearms. But it's compliance with the law that makes your service useful; the service is not inherently valuable.

I don't begrudge you the $25 you get to transfer firearms for people. But economic rents as a whole are a huge drain on our economy. Many of the smartest, most capable people in our society are engaged in activities that add no value to the economy at large because--in our current system--it is most favorable to them to position themselves in a space to take money out of the system without significantly contributing to it.

 

[CampingJosh]

I don't know who these mythical big-money, Hughes Amendment supporting, machinegun collectors are, but they certainly don't seem to come to any shoots that I've attended. Maybe they are too busy attending their Illuminati meetings and plotting to get rid of the lifetime concealed carry permits.

They are investors rather than shooters. They do exist, though probably not to the level they've been made out to be.

 

[traderdan]

Let me guess ( Blue River Arms ) ha lol...

Bingo...I think it is a real shame that ALL gun owners do not see the value of real freedom. I will not patronize a business that sells firearms, but is blind to the big picture.

 

[actaeon277]

It's pretty lucky that most of us don't have a conflict between moral beliefs and our income. That enables the high horses to remain appreciably high without the risk of hypocrisy.

I've maintained my high morals even when there was a conflict.
What's your point?

 

[traderdan]

I got $25 for a transfer Saturday and then bought a bottle of Buffalo Trace (distilled locally, keeping the money local)...The customer was able to purchase a firearm from Bud's (which is about an 80 mile drive from here) and only have to walk 100 yards from his Doctor's office to my shop to fill out his paperwork...He gets to purchase a firearm cheaper than I could have sold to him from his computer...I get $25 for being here when the revolver was delivered, unpacking it, putting it on the books and calling in his transfer....

It's sounds like a win for everyone.....If I do not get mad at folks for buying from out of state vendors online to save money then why on earth would someone begrudge me for charging $25 for my time and to help cover insurance, lease, internet, electricity, heat, etc to keep a small one man shop open in an era of Bud's, Rural King, Wal-Mart, Gander Mountain, Bass Pro Shop, Cabelas etc....If it wasn't for transfers I couldn't stay open...I saw this coming and decided to specialize in used firearms and doing transfers for some of the big online vendors...I have managed to keep the doors open since 2011 and I don't know who the "we" is that you are referring to that "don't think this bit of "work" the FFL does adds value to the economy" but I have never met them....Most folks that come here are just happy I do their transfers and don't give them any crap about buying a gun from someone other than me.....

I am glad that you do what you do. I am happy that you make a profit. I hope that you do not feel that all firearms purchases should require paperwork...