That is why I told the wife I needed the 45-70. You just never know when you might look out the window and see a rampaging bison.You never know if or when the American Bison will retake Indiana you need to be prepared.
That is why I told the wife I needed the 45-70. You just never know when you might look out the window and see a rampaging bison.You never know if or when the American Bison will retake Indiana you need to be prepared.
These threads are interesting, as someone relatively new to guns who was looking for a good conceal carry round Ive come to the conclusion that caliber doesnt matter, training, marksmanship, gun reliability, are what matters most. Due to 9MM being the cheapest
I choose it since it allows me to get more trigger time.
I have witnessed deer shot in the chest with a 22 LR expire.
Some of you need to man up and step up the 10mm !
You never know if or when the American Bison will retake Indiana you need to be prepared.
These threads are interesting, as someone relatively new to guns who was looking for a good conceal carry round Ive come to the conclusion that caliber doesnt matter, training, marksmanship, gun reliability, are what matters most. Due to 9MM being the cheapest I choose it since it allows me to get more trigger time.
I identify with you, as someone who 2.5 yrs. ago was new to the gun/ammo/CC world after a 30 yr. hiatus.
I soak up everything written here and other articles that come my way concerning the "caliber wars."
I have tried everything at the range on the small side, the S&W 351PD AirLite .22 Magnum Revolver revolver & the little Beretta Bobcat's .25 acp to larger calibers, like the Taurus "the Judge's" .410 bore shot shells and the .45 Colt cartridge (with its small stock grip was quite a handful).
To simplify things, I eliminated all but the .22LR (fun at the range) & the 9mm & either a .38 special or .357 magnum revolver for home protection & sometimes CC.
There are 9mm that are very small (loved my Ruger EC9s), but a little .32 Beretta crept back in for nostalgic reasons (used to have "a few") & when I need an absolute smallest CC.
Enjoy your journey, and don't be surprised if you change your mind and end up with other calibers here and there.
I'd like to see a modern high capacity pistol in 7.62x25. That's an excellent cartridge.
Sometimes I miss my G20SF. But not in awhile. Very glad I dropped down to 9mm and can get cheap range ammo instead of $35 for American Eagle.Have a Glock 20SF. Them 200gr WFNGC bullets going 1257fps have some serious power.
10mm? Pft, arguing over a difference of 100ftlbs from common calibers.
Step up to 50AE. Managed to concealed carry it once, was still more comfortable than carrying a glock 45acp/10mm.
Take a 200gr WFNGC bullet load it into a 40 S&W then take the same bullet load it into a 10mm full power not the garbage most factory rounds are. Shoot them into ballistics jell. 10mm will win by a large margin for penetration. 9mm with a hard cast 147gr SWC won't come close as well.
Take a 200gr WFNGC bullet load it into a 40 S&W then take the same bullet load it into a 10mm full power not the garbage most factory rounds are. Shoot them into ballistics jell. 10mm will win by a large margin for penetration. 9mm with a hard cast 147gr SWC won't come close as well.
I prefer a 9mm round for the lower recoil. But the 45 round in a JHP is truly got to be the supreme knockdown punch.
Studies have shown that the aforementioned rounds are all fairly close in performance.
I'm quite happy with what my 185gr 9mm has managed to do.
9mm is easier and softer to the touch, especially in a larger-framed pistol, that's for sure.
But in close-quarters, I prefer a heavier round, one that has a better ability to incapacitate quickly.
I didn't realize that they made a 9mm round in the 185 grain range...
I thought that 9mm maxed at 147 (for most) and 150 grain in the HST...
Even .40 only reaches 180 grain in weight...
I thought only the .45 acp came in 185 grain weight...which is actually the grain/weight I CC in my Glock 36???
I realize that Americans are getting fatter, but 40" of penetration is only useful if you can get three bad guys to stand in a nice line for you.