99.996% of Firearms Not Used for Gun Homicides Each Year

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  • Staalbund

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    Here is the truth about guns:

    There are 270 million guns in the United States (or about 89 for every 100 citizens). In 2011, there were 8,583 firearms homicides, down from 11,078 in 2010 (a decrease of 22.6%).

    Thus, of the population of 270 million firearms, only about .003 percent are used for homicides (not accounting for the chance that multiple guns are used in some homicides). Let’s say for the sake of argument an average of 1.6 guns are used for each homicide, a not unrealistic estimate. In that case, we will push the stat up to about .005 percent.

    That means around 99.996% of guns are not used for homicides each year in the United States. If guns actually caused murders, nearly 90% of the U.S. population would have been killed last year. Instead, only 0.0027 percent of the population were killed by people with firearms.

    If guns caused crime wouldn't we have a lot more guns being used in crime? Well I guess we could go the Australian route and try to ban guns but then this would happen:

    Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

    • In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
    • Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
    • Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.



    Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:


    • Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
    • During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
    • Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
    • Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
    • At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
    • Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.



    While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them

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    Murder Instruments
    Now murder is done with knifes, so much better being murdered by a knife than a gun *sarcasm*
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    Feel free to copypasta this to other websites.
     

    Chewie

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    You are working under the impression that anti gunners are logical thinkers and assume that when presented with facts that thy will begin to understand. I am afraid that I have to respectfully disagree with your theory.
     

    HmDBrian

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    You are working under the impression that anti gunners are logical thinkers and assume that when presented with facts that thy will begin to understand. I am afraid that I have to respectfully disagree with your theory.

    You are correct, they belive in their anti 2nd amendment bs as much as we believe in our 2nd amendment RIGHT, and the odss of changing their mind is almost as likely as them changing our minds. I think there is 1 person I actually got to about this, and that guy has a very open mind and is not blind to facts. He just happened to grow up in a anti gun family and didn't know the facts.
     

    Bogan

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    Would have been good...

    ...if references were included as to the sources of data in the OP. Here's a good source (just one of many) on the impact of the gun ban and buyback in Australia:
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/files/2013/01/bulletins_australia_spring_2011.pdf

    "For Australia, the NFA [gun ban and buyback] seems to have been incredibly successful in terms of lives saved. While 13 gun massacres (the killing of 4 or more people at one time) occurred in Australia in the 18 years before the NFA, resulting in more than one hundred deaths, in the 14 following years (and up to the present), there were no gun massacres"

    "The rates of total firearm deaths, firearm homicides and firearm suicides all at least doubled their existing rates of decline after the gun laws; there is no evidence of method substitution for suicides or homicides"

    Finally the study states: "It does not appear that the Australian experience with gun buybacks is fully replicable in the United States... because a) the buybacks are relatively small in scale (b) guns are surrendered voluntarily, and so are not like the ones used in crime; and (c) replacement guns are easy to obtain."

    The problem with comparisons is that you need to have a valid baseline - Australia and the US do not share the same baseline in this issue.
     

    24Carat

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    It's fun to drop this bomb into newspaper comment sections following anti-gun letters and editorials. It never gets challenged and usually the comments cease.
     
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