But hey, some people "got theirs".
The .22 crisis? Self imposed.
I never did either but Since the "new and improved" golden bullets have been out, I've fired 500-600 of them without one single ftf. I'm still impressed. Marlin model 60, and Ar with cmmg .22 conversion and no issues. For me their on par with federal bulk now.
ARE YOU NUTS?!? These guys are really just flippers and just trying to break down your common sense with some hearsay and salesmanship ... be careful, be very careful.Hmm, well I may have to give them another try then, based on your guy's input.
This is my first time trying them in 2-3 years I will be shooting them at the end of the month and will report back
I just have to say this. I question the veracity of the Remington QC people you spoke with. I can't believe it took Remington until 2010 to recognize that their .22 ammo was having problems. I was aware of it probably 10 years before that, as were other people who were paying attention. It seems more likely that Remington decided to sell inferior .22 ammo, simply because they could ignore the complaints and still sell it, and I do know folks who complained and sent in duds, etc.Through my involvement with the NSSF, as well as a salesman for a supplier, I got to know some of the Quality control people at the Remington plant. In 2010 and 2011 they were aware of the disappointments people were having with Remington .22's. To meet the demand they were having to run two of their old machines that were really worn out. The bottom line is that two of those worn out high production volume machines have been replaced. I was sent a couple of boxes from different lots from the new equipment to review. (and replace the bad quality boxes I mailed in for their testing) It was noticably more consistant. It clearly was not Federal 900b, Eley 10X, or SK Match grade, but it was a bunch better.
I just have to say this. I question the veracity of the Remington QC people you spoke with. I can't believe it took Remington until 2010 to recognize that their .22 ammo was having problems. I was aware of it probably 10 years before that, as were other people who were paying attention. It seems more likely that Remington decided to sell inferior .22 ammo, simply because they could ignore the complaints and still sell it, and I do know folks who complained and sent in duds, etc.
Most folks just want to plink and aren't really concerned about duds, nor accuracy. That's how Remington was able to produce sub-standard rimfire ammo for all those years. I used to shoot Remington Pistol Match ammo back in the late 70's. I would find about 2% to 4% duds. That is unacceptable for premium ammo. I also used to shoot Winchester T-22. I had similar problems with it. It is amazing that Remington took so long to correct their issues with .22 ammo (I'm taking your word on this). I have been happy with CCI and Federal rimfire ammo, as well as, some imported brands, like Aguila and Lapua. Eley has always been exceptionally reliable. I understand how hard it is to get .22 ammo now, so beggars can't be choosers, but I'll continue to steer clear of Remington and Winchester rimfire ammo as long as I can get something else.Remington 22 ammo was notorious back as far as the mid- late 70s when I was getting started in shooting for having issues with duds etc. I've been pleasantly surprised by the ammo of theirs I've bought in the last 5-10 years, it has improved.
I've even had great luck with even their notorious Thunderball LRN ammo as far as both feeding and reliable ignition in a variety of semiauto guns.