I have been messing around with the 35 Rem shortened to 1.8 and shooting it in a Marlin 336. Have been very happy with results both in the field on deer and the range. I have come to prefer the 200 gr soft nose bullets over the 180 gr speer, as the 200 gr bullets seem to shoot a little more accurately out of the 2 rifles I have tried it in and also have very good expansion on deer. The increase in velocity and flattened trajectory of the 180 is offset by the loading being a little less accurate and this bullet seems a little hard, and while it does expand on deer, the terminal damage is not as substantial as when using the 200 gr soft point. Anyway here is some data I gathered and hopefully some may find it useful. Thanks for all the help I received on this forum the last 2 years as I have been working with the 35 Rem and 45-70 1.8 versions.
CHRONOGRAPH RESULTS 35 Remington 1.8
DATE 9/13/14
TIME: 0800-1030
TEMP: 49 DEGREES F. TO 56 DEGREES F.
HUMIDITY: 62%
PRESS: 30.08
LIGHT: SUNNY TO PARTLY CLOUDY
BULLET: 35 CAL, 200 GR FEDERAL HYDRA SHOK
PRIMER: FEDERAL
PARENT CASE: FEDERAL
POWDER: ** THIS WAS MEX-MATCH FROM FACTORY FED HYDRA SHOK,PULLED BULLET, TRIMMED, AND PUT THE POWDER RIGHT BACK IN, IT WAS AN UNIDENTIFIED IMR POWDER AND THE CHARGE WAS 35 GR
CASE LENGTH: 1.785
OAL: SEATED TO CANNELURE
CRIMP: MODERATE CRIMP IN CANELURE, OBTAINED BY REMOVING THE COLLET FROM A LEE FACTORY CRIMP DIE, AND SHORTENING THE BOTTOM FACE OF IT .120, THEN RE-INSTALLING COLLET IN DIE, AND SET UP AND ADJUST TO CRIMP AS USUAL.
RIFLE: MARLIN 336C/ ZEISS CONQUEST 3X9
DISTANCE FROM MUZZLE TO CENTER OF CHRONOGRAPH: 10 FEET
CHRONOGRAPH: PRO CHRONO “PAL”
CHRONOGRAPHED VELOCITIES
SHOT 1 1975
SHOT 2 1946
SHOT 3 1990
SHOT 4 1978
SHOT 5 1924
AVG- 1962 MAX DEV – 66
NO SIGNS OF PRESSURE, RECOIL AND REPORT MILD
THIS LOAD WILL SHOOT ABOUT 2 MOA ,FUNCTION= EXCELLENT
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BULLET: 35 CAL, 185 GR SPEER FLN
PRIMER: CCI LR
PARENT CASE: MIXED
POWDER: 45.0 GR- LEVEREVOLUTION ** SLIGHTLY COMPRESSED**
CASE LENGTH: 1.785
OAL: SEATED TO CANNELURE
RIFLE: MARLIN 336C/ ZEISS CONQUEST 3X9
DISTANCE FROM MUZZLE TO CENTER OF CHRONOGRAPH: 10 FEET
CHRONOGRAPH: PRO CHRONO “PAL”
CHRONOGRAPHED VELOCITIES
SHOT 1 2083
SHOT 2 2023
SHOT 3 2038
SHOT 4 2076
SHOT 5 2011
AVG- 2046 MAX DEV – 72
GROUP SIZE-NA
NO SIGNS OF PRESSURE, RECOIL AND REPORT AVERAGE
THIS LOAD WILL SHOOT ABOUT 2 - 2.5 MOA. FUNCTION= EXCELLENT
THIS LOAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MAX FOR A NORMAL LENGTH CASE AND GIVE A MV OF 2300 FPS ACCORDING TO THE HODGDON DATA WEBSITE, I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED HERE. I THINK I COULD BUMP IT UP A LITTLE AND ALSO PERHAPS GET IT TO SHOOT UNDER 2 MOA BUT IM DOUBT I WD EVER GET IT TO 2300 FPS AND NOT SURE IT IS WORTH THE COST AND EFFORT, WHEN COMPARED TO THE 200GR SOFT NOSE LOAD AND THE KNOWN EXCELLENT TERMINAL EFFECTS OF THAT LOAD.
CHRONOGRAPH RESULTS 35 Remington 1.8
DATE 9/13/14
TIME: 0800-1030
TEMP: 49 DEGREES F. TO 56 DEGREES F.
HUMIDITY: 62%
PRESS: 30.08
LIGHT: SUNNY TO PARTLY CLOUDY
BULLET: 35 CAL, 200 GR FEDERAL HYDRA SHOK
PRIMER: FEDERAL
PARENT CASE: FEDERAL
POWDER: ** THIS WAS MEX-MATCH FROM FACTORY FED HYDRA SHOK,PULLED BULLET, TRIMMED, AND PUT THE POWDER RIGHT BACK IN, IT WAS AN UNIDENTIFIED IMR POWDER AND THE CHARGE WAS 35 GR
CASE LENGTH: 1.785
OAL: SEATED TO CANNELURE
CRIMP: MODERATE CRIMP IN CANELURE, OBTAINED BY REMOVING THE COLLET FROM A LEE FACTORY CRIMP DIE, AND SHORTENING THE BOTTOM FACE OF IT .120, THEN RE-INSTALLING COLLET IN DIE, AND SET UP AND ADJUST TO CRIMP AS USUAL.
RIFLE: MARLIN 336C/ ZEISS CONQUEST 3X9
DISTANCE FROM MUZZLE TO CENTER OF CHRONOGRAPH: 10 FEET
CHRONOGRAPH: PRO CHRONO “PAL”
CHRONOGRAPHED VELOCITIES
SHOT 1 1975
SHOT 2 1946
SHOT 3 1990
SHOT 4 1978
SHOT 5 1924
AVG- 1962 MAX DEV – 66
NO SIGNS OF PRESSURE, RECOIL AND REPORT MILD
THIS LOAD WILL SHOOT ABOUT 2 MOA ,FUNCTION= EXCELLENT
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BULLET: 35 CAL, 185 GR SPEER FLN
PRIMER: CCI LR
PARENT CASE: MIXED
POWDER: 45.0 GR- LEVEREVOLUTION ** SLIGHTLY COMPRESSED**
CASE LENGTH: 1.785
OAL: SEATED TO CANNELURE
RIFLE: MARLIN 336C/ ZEISS CONQUEST 3X9
DISTANCE FROM MUZZLE TO CENTER OF CHRONOGRAPH: 10 FEET
CHRONOGRAPH: PRO CHRONO “PAL”
CHRONOGRAPHED VELOCITIES
SHOT 1 2083
SHOT 2 2023
SHOT 3 2038
SHOT 4 2076
SHOT 5 2011
AVG- 2046 MAX DEV – 72
GROUP SIZE-NA
NO SIGNS OF PRESSURE, RECOIL AND REPORT AVERAGE
THIS LOAD WILL SHOOT ABOUT 2 - 2.5 MOA. FUNCTION= EXCELLENT
THIS LOAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MAX FOR A NORMAL LENGTH CASE AND GIVE A MV OF 2300 FPS ACCORDING TO THE HODGDON DATA WEBSITE, I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED HERE. I THINK I COULD BUMP IT UP A LITTLE AND ALSO PERHAPS GET IT TO SHOOT UNDER 2 MOA BUT IM DOUBT I WD EVER GET IT TO 2300 FPS AND NOT SURE IT IS WORTH THE COST AND EFFORT, WHEN COMPARED TO THE 200GR SOFT NOSE LOAD AND THE KNOWN EXCELLENT TERMINAL EFFECTS OF THAT LOAD.