I've been outside practicing pretty much all summer getting ready for bow season, and was curious to what kind of groups you guys average at 30 yards ? This will be my 4th season bow hunting, and my 2nd with my new bow (Bear Element). I was shooting a PSE nova for the first two years, and my 30 yard groups seemed to be tighter with the longer nova compared to the Bear. Tens, and twentys I can pretty much stack my arrows, but at 30 I have been averaging about 5" groups. What do you guys think ? I want to be sure if I take a shot at 30 my shot will be a sufficient, and an ethical kill shot. Practicing on a 3D deer target seems to help me focus a bit better, but I'm still uncertain.