.223 or 30-06

[IndyMonkey]

Im a fan of the Remington 700 platform. The triggers are easy to self adjust.

 

[jeremy]

Indy have you used the newer Accu-trigers on the Savages? I actually think they are even easier to tune than the Remmi ones...

 

[furbymac]

ummmmm tune the trigger??

 

[jeremy]

Tuning the trigger is adjusting the trigger to the desired feel. Lighter, crisper, shorter, etc...

Welcome to whole new world of jargon my friend... LOL

 

[paperboy]

For range time and pest control go for the 223

 

[IndyMonkey]

Indy have you used the newer Accu-trigers on the Savages? I actually think they are even easier to tune than the Remmi ones...

Nope, I remember when savages were the POS rifles on the block.

Are they still junky or are they getting better?

I have two rifles built by charlie sisk in texas.

Mauser actions, shilen and heart barrels. 257 ackley and 7mm weatherby mag.

I havent had them out of the safe in 6 years. Might need to get them out and knock the dust off.

Off the shelf I have always liked the 700's

 

[farmboy365]

so what would be a decent bolt action rifle in .223 for around 500 and under that would be a good target and small game gun

I have a CZ 527 in 223 and I would no trade it for anything it is vary accurate. they sell new for around $600.A remington 700 in 223 would be good and I have herd good things about the stevens and savage.

 

[jeremy]

Nope, I remember when savages were the POS rifles on the block.

Are they still junky or are they getting better?

I have two rifles built by charlie sisk in texas.

Mauser actions, shilen and heart barrels. 257 ackley and 7mm weatherby mag.

I havent had them out of the safe in 6 years. Might need to get them out and knock the dust off.

Off the shelf I have always liked the 700's

I would take an off the shelf Savage just as fast as I would a new Remington. Their quality has come far. I can not stress that enough. I don't know if they are making a showing at any of the matches yet or not. But if not probably in the next 5 years they will be...

I got to hold a couple of Charlie Sisks when I was down at Hood... Nice... Tried to bring them back but my friend would not let them walk... Sigh...

I had a McMillan-Harris Long Range Express in .300 WinMag still kicking myself in the tail for getting rid of her...

 

[Mrmonte]

Wow, from the .223 being a deer gun to the 30-06 being an elephant gun! I hope that bullet is tumbling at a fast rate if your hunting deer with it.

Like stated already, the Remington Model 700 is a great choice. I would also look at the Rugers, they make a fine bolt action. Sounds like the .223 will be perfect for what your wanting to do Furby. The 06 has its place for sure. Its one of the best, if not the best, all around hunting rounds there are for North American big game. I bet only the 30-30 tops the list for more whitetails harvested. Thats my opinon, not based on actual facts.

 

[jeremy]

By the Furby I actually prefer a .270 for an all around can smite everything caliber...

.223 is a good choice for pleasant shooter though. Just need to be aware of shot placement and windage. Does not like pretty heavy winds at all...

 

[dbd870]

I would take an off the shelf Savage just as fast as I would a new Remington.

Yep; I have both and if you told me I had to go all 700's or all Savage's with AccuTriggers I wouldn't be upset about either. I suppose if you were looking for aftermarket stuff there probably is more out there for the 700.

 

[cholmstr]

.223 more fun less recoil, don't probably need a 30 06!

 

[randyb]

Based upon what you are wanting it for (rodents and paper) the .223 is the better choice. If I could only have one rifle I would opt for the .30-06 as it will 'do it all' better than the .223

 

[nova512]

i like both ,30/06 is my personal fav on a round but it costs alot to shoot,i like the 223 its growing on me.get both lol

 

[dtkw]

I have both, a Remy 700 BDL in 30-06 and a Smith&Wesson M&P15T in 223 or 5.56. I like shooting both, but I can shoot more 223 than I want to with the 06. Many years ago, I could hit a penny with my Remy at 100 yards. Now I am older and so are my eyes, geeeezzz, how things can changed with ages....

 

[2cool9031]

I had both...Go with the .223.

 

[unforgiven1203]

223=cheap to shoot and light recoil
30.06= not so cheap and much more recoil
however the 30.06 is a lot more gun.

 

[cholmstr]

The .223 is slightly more accurate at ranges up to 200 yards, but wind deflection enters into the picture about there. Accuracy should not be the major factor in judging between those two cartridges, unless you're planning to do some benchrest shooting, but there are better cartridges than either for that sport.

Recoil, barrel heating, cost of shooting, need for greater energy to dispatch larger game, all enter into the picture. If you want a rifle to shoot at the range and not for hunting medium to larger game, the .223 Rem is the best choice. It's not the cartridge to hunt deer or bear though.

 

[alan robert]

.223 and 30.06 are both great calibers for what they were developed.

We are talking bolt rifles right? With a lot of shooting, I say go for the .223 for the sake of the occassional ammo deal.

If we are shooting close range, pick up a nice .22lr or .22wmr bolt rifle.

But if the shooting is periodic, I would suggest a .243/6mm bolt rifle.

Accurate enough for paper punching, wide range of bullets to choose from for varmints (55-105 grains), and capable of medium game.

It could serve as self defense also. Recoil is not bad either.

 

[booey50]

get the 223, and if your ever looking for an ar-15 you will have all the ammo for it already