+1 for ruger and smith

[DOYOUFEELLUCKYPUNK]

I was reading outdoor life (while on the john...ik ik tmi ) but stumbled across this collage of random pics and noticed a hi cap pistol mag and above it there was a few sentences that said "Californians continue to suffer at the hands of their anti-gun government. Ruger and Smith & Wesson will stop selling handguns there rather than comply with microstamping laws."
Both Ruger and Smith went up a notch in my book.

 

[throttletony]

I agree, good move on the corporate side, ... but I'd be pissed if I lived in Komifornia

 

[nakinate]

I'd move if I lived in Cali. I know it's not that simple, but I would start looking for jobs in AZ or a state like that if I lived in California.

 

[45fan]

My gut tells me that they will not be the only ones to opt out of sales in that state. Their reasoning was not so much because of any idealistic initiative, but because the micro stamping process is costly, and tedious. Without a national registration the micro stamping process would be a complete waste of time, and if it went to that extreme, the criminal population that this law would affect would circumvent the whole process in fairly short order. The only thing that this will accomplish in that state wil be to raise the prices of new guns that are allowed to be sold in that state, and also very likely cause an increase in price of the guns that are exempt, as their demand will also go up.

 

[87iroc]

Will they stop selling to police departments? I assume they are exempt from the law

 

[outnumbered]

From what I saw it was only semi-autos. They plan to make up sales lost with increased revolver sales. Glad to see they aren't completely abandoning the gun buyers stuck in the PRC.

 

[Street Howitzer]

California sucks. The people that live there are getting what they voted for, it's that simple.

 

[Classic]

Most everyone agrees the micro-stamping won't solve crimes, I don't believe those who passed the law ever intended to do more than to further hinder gun ownership.

 

[ilikeguns]

On one hand, it seems like a good thing they are doing and it will no doubt earn them some loyalty from other gun owners. On the other hand, what are they accomplishing? The number one goal of the liberals is to make it harder to get and own guns and eventually end gun ownership altogether. It seems to me that passing laws that have the end result of gun manufacturers deciding not to sell in their state is really more of a win for the liberals than us. I am sure they are celebrating this move as much or more than any of us. It also could set a precedent for other liberty hating states. "hey, look what they accomplished in California! Two major manufacturers quit selling there due to this law, we can accomplish the same thing with a similar law." Just seems like a double edged sword to me, and I'm afraid the wrong edge is the sharpest.

 

[JettaKnight]

On one hand, it seems like a good thing they are doing and it will no doubt earn them some loyalty from other gun owners. On the other hand, what are they accomplishing? The number one goal of the liberals is to make it harder to get and own guns and eventually end gun ownership altogether. It seems to me that passing laws that have the end result of gun manufacturers deciding not to sell in their state is really more of a win for the liberals than us. I am sure they are celebrating this move as much or more than any of us. It also could set a precedent for other liberty hating states. "hey, look what they accomplished in California! Two major manufacturers quit selling there due to this law, we can accomplish the same thing with a similar law." Just seems like a double edged sword to me, and I'm afraid the wrong edge is the sharpest.

Then what Cali has done is enact a de facto complete ban on guns. That's prime fodder for the Supreme Court to come in and smack them around.

NJ is next with their mandate of "personalized firearms".

 

[Hopper]

On one hand, it seems like a good thing they are doing and it will no doubt earn them some loyalty from other gun owners. On the other hand, what are they accomplishing? The number one goal of the liberals is to make it harder to get and own guns and eventually end gun ownership altogether. It seems to me that passing laws that have the end result of gun manufacturers deciding not to sell in their state is really more of a win for the liberals than us. I am sure they are celebrating this move as much or more than any of us. It also could set a precedent for other liberty hating states. "hey, look what they accomplished in California! Two major manufacturers quit selling there due to this law, we can accomplish the same thing with a similar law." Just seems like a double edged sword to me, and I'm afraid the wrong edge is the sharpest.

I don't disagree with this at all. While it seems honorable and what not for manufacturers to take their business elsewhere, at some point you have to stand up and fight for what's right. Yes, you have to realize that people are getting what they voted for (more "change you can believe in", I suppose), but if no one stays to fight the good fight, there will eventually be no other place to run to. And just like NY or IL, the good, reasonably minded folks in rural areas are outnumbered/outvoted by the larger liberal big cities.

 

[fatvette]

On one hand, it seems like a good thing they are doing and it will no doubt earn them some loyalty from other gun owners. On the other hand, what are they accomplishing? The number one goal of the liberals is to make it harder to get and own guns and eventually end gun ownership altogether. It seems to me that passing laws that have the end result of gun manufacturers deciding not to sell in their state is really more of a win for the liberals than us. I am sure they are celebrating this move as much or more than any of us. It also could set a precedent for other liberty hating states. "hey, look what they accomplished in California! Two major manufacturers quit selling there due to this law, we can accomplish the same thing with a similar law." Just seems like a double edged sword to me, and I'm afraid the wrong edge is the sharpest.

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Exactly this. I commend S&W and Rugar for making a statement but this is exactly what the left wants. They will continue to throw crap at the wall just to see what sticks. Very BIG win for the libs.

 

[easy]

While Ruger and S&W are 'standing up' to the stupid CA regulations, the people of CA are the only ones who are really getting hurt.

 

[nakinate]

While Ruger and S&W are 'standing up' to the stupid CA regulations, the people of CA are the only ones who are really getting hurt.

But "the people" are the only ones who can institute change. You hurt the people of CA and maybe they will vote out those who implemented these laws.

 

[JettaKnight]

ARe S&W and Ruger halting LEO sales to CA? Now if Sig and Glock do this to...

 

[1775usmarine]

Makes me happy knowing I never had to be stationed there for longer than Boot camp, MCT, and while EAS'ing. Makes me sad I'll have to visit there some time in November when my BIL graduates, but at least it will be at most 3 days.