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    1. Archaic_Entity

      Thanks for the rep.

      Thanks for the rep.
    2. Archaic_Entity

      You Know It's Bad When...

      Even CNN rips into Obama for his new plan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NHO6pmZj6dA Sorry if this happens to be a dupe.
    3. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      Where are you drawing the conclusions that this entire thing was based upon the purchase of cold medicine, and some junkie ratting them out?
    4. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      In order to obtain a warranty, there must be probable cause of a crime. You are afforded that protection. A judge must approve the warrant. The facts aren't fully detailed in this case, unfortunately, so we have limited information to go on. What we do know is that there was an...
    5. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      Not being an LEO, I can't speak for any of them, but I think it has been pointed out before that there is a line, and gun-grabbing and genocide are on the wrong side of them for the LEOs here. So we've already differentiated the morality of the officer from the law. Phylodog even stated that...
    6. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      Yes. Yes it does present a moral issue. Kidnapping someone is terrible, and no one should ever do it. That being said, that is not what officers do at all. Their job is to keep the peace, and uphold the law. If a person is disrupting the peace and breaking the law, then they should face...
    7. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      Officers obviously have the same moral obligation to weigh their actions as we do. Where you and I seem to be missing each other is at this line you're wanting to draw. There is no moral issue here, in this instance, that I can find. They performed a routine drug bust, but an unforeseen...
    8. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      I did ask for no Godwin, but apparently it goes into effect anyway. Look, there are major differences between a drug raid and sending people to their deaths for their ethnic heritage. We have ruled one is legal, and the other is not. If you want to make the former illegal, then make it...
    9. Archaic_Entity

      Kunai

      It's okay. You know we all want this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcL4lGXPoQ
    10. Archaic_Entity

      Kunai

      I would say you're good, honestly. If you're afraid to be the test subject, I'll gladly let you buy them and ship them to my place and see if I get a no-knock.
    11. Archaic_Entity

      Kunai

      The operating issue is whether or not double-sided throwing blades constitute as "Chinese throwing stars." An archaic law that needs repealed.
    12. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      It seems I missed a lot by getting home and just focusing on the debates. And I see we're on to Indiana Jones by now, but I can't help but want to get people riled up again. So here it goes. I would agree that one wrongful death is too many. I'm fairly certain you would be hard-pressed to...
    13. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      I believe that a lot of folks are missing something here. They're falling prey to the sensationalism that they want to see. I definitely don't have statistics in front of me, but I bet that the number of "bungled" no-knocks to no-knocks that went just fine is relatively low. But it's no fun...
    14. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      But, so far in this thread, that seems to be the implication. You would think it's better that 10 men get injured, or have an increased risk of injury or death, in the performance of their duties than have one person be wrongfully accused and acquitted or, in the case of the article, still be...
    15. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      I would like her to clarify before I actually get angered by the statement. I'm not going to assume, not yet.
    16. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      What does that mean? Your addendum.
    17. Archaic_Entity

      SWAT uses flashbang on sleeping 12-year-old girl

      We can certainly discuss the merit of no-knock raids, and that's one thing, but that was never brought up in this topic of discussion (unless I missed it in your posts somewhere). I would agree that no-knock raids cause a lot of problems, and may cause more problems than they solve, but if...
    18. Archaic_Entity

      Thanks for the rep

      Thanks for the rep
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